For what good it will do I will post this. It seems with the way these nations work, I am not getting very many hits on my post. I don't want to post to all the nations I belong because some of them are not interested in crafts so it is over kill. Not a whinner here but sure miss the old way. I guess it is the Native American in me, I believe in keeping the old ways. Here is my first pine needle basket I wove last week, I am working on a square one now and will be weaving in beads to decorate it. Peace Wado. Awanita.